Nearest Pint

(knowwhereconsulting.co.uk)

47 points | by bookofjoe 6 days ago

12 comments

  • Syzygies 9 hours ago
    Pub tourism is one of my favorite ways to spend a day in London. The pub "density" isn't all it's cracked up to be. To be able to make it to the next pub for a bathroom (and to preserve my ability to walk) I've found half pints to be ideal. Ideally, accompanied here and there by pub food.

    Bar staff don't universally view half pint orders with respect.

  • stevenfeldman 10 hours ago
    Hi I built the pub density map.

    I think the data from FHRS is more comprehensive than on OSM as it covers bars, clubs etc. If you have an alcohol license you appear in the FHRS data

    I know there have been some access issues today, I think it is down to Cloudflare changing its bot protection.

    The app is to compare pub density in your area, it doesn't have a search facility - there are loads of alternatives to search for a pub.

  • northernsausage 15 hours ago
    Its only 9am in the UK and the demand means its has already serving a 520.
  • wrboyce 13 hours ago
    Hmm, this dataset is pretty poor. There are at least 3 pubs near me that are missing.
  • NoboruWataya 12 hours ago
    Why use FHRS as the source rather than OSM? OSM isn't perfect either but for my area at least it seems a lot more comprehensive.
  • rob74 12 hours ago
    > UK Pub Density by Parliamentary Constituency

    Technically, this is only the pub density in Great Britain - the UK is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", and Northern Ireland is not covered, so...

  • toolslive 14 hours ago
    OK, I think this will be close to an all time record: Leopoldsburg (Belgium, 14k inhabitants) had more than 150 pubs in the 1980s.
    • flir 14 hours ago
      I make that 933:1? Portsmouth (Navy/dockyard town) had 115:1 in the 1860s. (822 pubs and beerhouses against a population of 95k). There was a row of five pubs right outside the dockyard gate.

      I see Leopoldsburg had a large military camp nearby. Same story?

      • falcor84 13 hours ago
        You're off by a factor of 10: 14k/150 is ~93 residents per pub.
        • flir 9 hours ago
          Thanks. Early morning posting. Bet I read "140k".
      • kaelyx 13 hours ago
        Im surprised Newcastle upon Tyne isn't higher on this map. I guess its Density of housing near the center dilutes the ratio
      • toolslive 14 hours ago
        yup. soldiers in dire need of a drink
    • martinclayton 11 hours ago
      Dataset does seem sketchy. My village has two pubs, neither appear. Two non-pub licensed locations (social club, stately home) do appear. The dot for the pub in the next village is off by about 100m.
  • jrflo 17 hours ago
    Really surprising that Inverness and Skye have only 16 pubs considering how much tourism the area has. I felt like it wasn't lacking for pubs but maybe I saw all 16...
    • wetbaby 16 hours ago
      A good third of the pubs are missing in my town tbh and they're definitely still open.
      • CiaranMcNulty 16 hours ago
        It looks like the data is from OpenStreetMap so maybe you could add them if they’re missing there?
        • n4r9 15 hours ago
          If you click the question mark it has:

          > Pub data is sourced from the Food Hygiene Rating Service (FHRS) via GetTheData Open Pubs

          https://www.getthedata.com/open-pubs

          • MrDOS 15 hours ago
            Ah, interesting. Searching the dataset for my local area, this seems to include some restaurants, but omits hotels entirely. That's skewing the numbers downward tremendously.
          • 2b3a51 14 hours ago
            Which explains why Spearmint Rhino is listed in Birmingham (hint: you might get a surprise popping in that establishment for a quick pint).

            So nice interface and all but some data curation will be needed - perhaps on a crowd sourced basis? Click and add comment &c.

            • flir 13 hours ago
              I thought about doing something similar pre-Covid. There are commercial datasets that are more complete (Local Data Company was the one I targeted when I was researching), but... well... £000's a quarter.

              The project would have had to cover its costs, so the idea went to the great backlog in the sky.

        • mojo74 15 hours ago
          I would argue it's your civic duty :)
      • BoxOfRain 14 hours ago
        Yeah I'm dogsitting at my childhood home right now and it's missing the rural pubs on the dog route.
    • pelagicAustral 14 hours ago
      I was in Inverness a few weeks ago, seems like the tourist season is on, and it was fairly hard to find a pub other than downtown. The other interesting thing is that a lot of them don't seem to not go by the advertised opening times, which later on made total sense based on what an old man told me about the Highlands having their own time.
    • lostlogin 13 hours ago
      There were about as many golf courses as pubs when I went through there - but that was a while back.
  • bean469 9 hours ago
    Northern Ireland is not covered despite being part of the UK
  • purplemoonx 8 hours ago
    "Checking your browser..." See ya!
  • wodenokoto 12 hours ago
    I can't find a single pub using this page, let alone the nearest to me.
  • spidermonkey23 9 hours ago
    seems like Edinburgh beats Glasgow for the no 5 spot,I guess they have the Fringe to thank